BP oil mess

[11amas]

Do you think the democrats would have the leverage on the oil industry and national opinion if they prevented oil from hitting sandy beaches and marshlands?

[UcfLumberjack]

Speak with your dollars. If you think BP is a bunch of assholes then don't buy their shit. If you think that they are doing the best that they can then keep buying their shit.

It's up to you.

Unfortunately, the 'masses' speak for all of us..

I love the BN because it's real capitalism. The people that value it and have money to spare will support it. If not enough people value it and have money to support it, it will disappear. Support the BN if you want it to stick around!

Disclaimer: I'm broke, I don't listen live, Once I'm 'current' I will get 5% to the BN.

Justin has huge balls. Along with anybody else who has money/time/resources invested in the BN. Give if you can.

[BDawg]

Justin has huge balls.

Apparently, Beevo has verified this and she agrees.

[Scratchnsniff]

There is one method of generating power that isn't dependent on weather conditions and produces very few hazardous waste disposal issues (in comparison to conventional forms of energy production). Geo-thermal. Iceland generates all of their electricty this way. The initial costs for drilling are expensive and the technology isn't perfect, but look at the mess BP will (hopefully) be paying for.
I doubt the price to build a "clean" geothermal plant is far from the cost to build a new nuclear plant when you throw in waste disposal.
Combined with other renewable sources of energy we could reduce our dependence on the "dirtier" methods of energy production.

[bcmaui]

put this BP oil mess around Hawaii and see how BC thinks about it.

We may have something like that already - one of the two "Pacific Garbage Patches" is nearby

I suspect California is responsible for a large portion of this rubbish and the federal government should fine California for a large part of the cleanup effort. Coastal Oregon and Washington has a relatively low population and may be adding some of the waste, but it makes sense that a majority of the waste originates from the California coast between San Diego and Marin County.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/great- ... -patch.htm



http://discovermagazine.com/2008/jul/10 ... t:int=1&-C

[boobookittyfuk]

put this BP oil mess around Hawaii and see how BC thinks about it.

We may have something like that already - one of the two "Pacific Garbage Patches" is nearby

I suspect California is responsible for a large portion of this rubbish and the federal government should fine California for a large part of the cleanup effort. Coastal Oregon and Washington has a relatively low population and may be adding some of the waste, but it makes sense that a majority of the waste originates from the California coast between San Diego and Marin County.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/great- ... -patch.htm



http://discovermagazine.com/2008/jul/10 ... t:int=1&-C

If its all from CA, then there must be a good percentage of roaches from people smoking the cousin in there. Think of it as a bonus. The other garbage soup from Japan must be loaded with illegally caught whales from the Japs. Yeah, I watch whale wars. Not because I support either side but because I like watching them fuck with each other. The Japanese actually do publish articles about whales in peer reviewed journals. Granted the articles are lame and don't require them to kill hundreds of whales. I read one article last summer that pretty much said that "whales have special lipids that help them survive frigid water temperatures"....

[Scratchnsniff]

Nice graphic. I had to present a short informative speech on the Pacific Garbage Patch recently. I really could've used that graphic at the time. Pretty far off topic. A whole different ocean now. What's sad is that this thread goes pretty far back and that fucking oil is still spewing! Nice job BP! Way to prevent wides-pread environmental damage cocksuckers!

[bcmaui]

If its all from CA, then there must be a good percentage of roaches from people smoking the cousin in there. Think of it as a bonus.

Maybe BP should throw some pakalolo into the Gulf? You could explain to them how that is a bonus, because I don't grasp the benefit of that yet.

I suspect much of the Japanese whaling rubbish is in the "Eastern Garbage Patch" that is to the far West of us, not the "Western Garbage Patch" that is very nearby to the East of us. The name of each Garbage Patch must denote where the waste originates from as it does not make sense as to it's actual geographic location in the Pacific Ocean.

We need to establish a cleanup fund (starting at say $20 billion) and withhold these federal funds from other programs that are currently allocated to the following states:

37.6 million trash producers in California (75% or about $15 billion)
6.6 million trash producers in Washington (13% or $2.5 billion)
3.8 million trash producers in Oregon (8% or $1.5 billion)
1.3 milllion trash producers in Hawaii (3% or $500 million)
and 700,000 trash producers in Alaska (1% or $280 million)

Currently this money is being paid to greedy SEIU union management for big wig manager salaries, offices, jet travel, vehicles, company parties, election donations and worker bonuses (i.e. pension and health care benefits) - this would be better spent cleaning up this mess in the Pacific Ocean.

The federal government has been ignoring this problem for much longer than the 60 odd days they have been pretty ineffective to the Gulf of Mexico mess on the ocean floor they collect lease payments and oil revenues from. Worse than not exempting foreign cleanup vessels that offered to sail to the gulf a day after the spill began from the Jones Act to allow them to assist in cleanup efforts, they have ignored this Pacific ocean problem completely for many, many years preferring to line the pockets of their stakeholders with fat pay and large benefits packages that far exceeds that of the normal worker in the US and allow rubbish to be be set off into international waters.