Re: Imperial Kolsch... Not a good idea. Going to sour it

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:56 pm

Abouttreefiddy wrote:Thanks for your help brewinhard. You're the man!
I moved it upstairs. The temperature up there will fluctuate around 5 degrees per day every day but I think that will be ok. I also pitched the dregs from a saison dupont. Should I continue to pitch dregs as I get sour beers (once every 2-4 weeks) or is there a point where I should stop dumping stuff into it?


Unfortunately, Saison Dupont only has saccharomyces and no wild yeast or bacteria. So it will do nothing for your souring adventure...
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Re: Imperial Kolsch... Not a good idea. Going to sour it

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:07 pm

Ozwald wrote:As for the Dupont, it'll work in theory as the Brett will eat just about every remaining drop of sugar in there,

Am I mistaken in thinking that Dupont has no Brett?

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Re: Imperial Kolsch... Not a good idea. Going to sour it

Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:33 pm

I was thinking it was a blend. If it is just sacchro, you guys are absolutely right.
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Re: Imperial Kolsch... Not a good idea. Going to sour it

Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:54 am

Ozwald wrote:I was thinking it was a blend. If it is just sacchro, you guys are absolutely right.

Pretty sure the Saison strain from WL (and perhaps WY too) are supposed to be the Dupont yeast, therefore Saccharomyces ...
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Re: Imperial Kolsch... Not a good idea. Going to sour it

Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:29 am

Yep, there is only saccharomyces in the Dupont Saison. No brett or bacteria.
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Re: Imperial Kolsch... Not a good idea. Going to sour it

Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:18 pm

brewinhard wrote:Yep, there is only saccharomyces in the Dupont Saison. No brett or bacteria.


Well, before I sneezed in it anyways. :D
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Re: Imperial Kolsch... Not a good idea. Going to sour it

Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:12 am

Ozwald wrote:Well, before I sneezed in it anyways. :D

Eeewwww, Bozeman boogers...
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Re: Imperial Kolsch... Not a good idea. Going to sour it

Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:14 am

Ozwald wrote:Also, keep in mind that bacteria/Brett won't fix a massively flawed beer. If it just doesn't have the right profile you were after, the sourness can help, but if you've got just a plain bad beer the bugs are only going to make it into a sour bad beer that potentially is even less drinkable than the original.


I brought the base beer to a homebrew club meeting to find out what others thought about it. Surprisingly enough, I had a bunch of very positive comments. One guy told me that it was the best beer he tasted all day! (I know they would have told me if it sucked too) I think I just didn't like it because it didn't turn out the way I thought it would. Anyway, It'll be an interesting experiment. I'll probably bottle up 6 bottles of the base beer before the keg is empty to sample next to the brett beer.
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